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Training, Cardio, and Diet Plan to Increase DHT and All Androgens

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DHT – some love it, some hate it, some want to decrease DHT, some want to increase DHT naturally.

You already know the benefits of DHT, you know how to increase DHT naturally, you know my DHT all out protocol, but you don’t have a solid training and diet program.

This post will have…

  1. Research on training and testosterone, growth hormone, and DHT
  2. Research on overtraining
  3. How to not overtrain
  4. Aerobic counts just as much as anaerobic
  5. Calisthenics program to increase DHT and all androgens
  6. Weight lifting mixed with calisthenics program to increase DHT and all androgens
  7. Cardio to increase DHT and all androgens
  8. Cardio that fucks up androgens
  9. Diet and nutrition plan to increase DHT and all androgens

What the Science Says on Training and Testosterone, Growth Hormone, and DHT

Let’s first look at the research we have on training and DHT.

There’s no doubt that staying active and training without overtraining increases your testosterone, growth hormone, DHT, and all androgens.

As this study says – Both T and DHT were independently associated with higher forced expiratory volume in 1 s and forced vital capacity in predominantly middle-aged community-dwelling men. Androgens may contribute to, or be biomarkers for, better lung function in men.

This study found that one hour of woodcutting increased testosterone by 46.8% in Tsimane forager-farmers. That’s a greater increase than you’d get from an hour of resistance training.

This study shows – long-term exercise decreased RT and increased VO2max, testosterone, and GH in elderly males.

This study concluded – physically active subjects seem to have a more anabolic hormonal environment and a healthier semen production.

This study found – running on a treadmill for 30 minutes, 5 times a week increased dihydrotestosterone levels in skeletal muscle of male rats.

This study done in healthy young men found that DHT is elevated following sprint exercise.

This study suggests – high-intensity interval exercise might produce a more pronounced turnover of free testosterone by androgen sensitive tissue than the steady-state endurance exercise form of exercise.

This study concludes that testosterone increased in response to high-intensity cycling and resistance exercise.

This study found that short-term strength training elevates anabolic hormones.

The study here says – Serum 5α-dihydrotestosterone concentrations increased with 90% V̇O2 peak exercise in both athletes and non-athletes.

DHEA and 5α-dihydrotestosterone concentrations, increased only with high-intensity exercise.

This study done on a group of young men and on a group of older men found – squat strength and thigh muscle cross-sectional area increased for both groups. The younger group demonstrated higher total and free testosterone and IGF-I than the older men, training-induced increases in free testosterone at rest and with exercise, and increases in resting IGF-binding protein-3.

With training the older group demonstrated a significant increase in total testosterone in response to exercise stress along with significant decreases in resting cortisol.

In this study after doing a 12 week resistance training program the basal level of growth hormone increased by 44.9%.

This study says – all heavy resistance exercise protocols produced significant temporal increases in serum T concentrations.

This study concluded – resistance training restores muscle sex steroid hormone steroidogenesis in older men.

The study here found out that performing strength exercise, whether acutely or in a training programme, leads to alterations at the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular and hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axes.

This controlled clinical trial showed that a 12-month moderate-to-vigorous aerobic exercise intervention increased circulating DHT levels among exercisers versus controls at 3 and 12 months.

DHT and SHBG increased most substantially among exercisers who experienced the greatest change in cardiopulmonary fitness as measured by V ·O2max.

What’s real interesting is the study found no significant effects of this exercise intervention on testosterone, free testosterone, 3α-Diol-G, estradiol, or free estradiol.

One thing all these studies can conclude is that training and being active is great for your androgens.

What the Science Says on Overtraining

Training and staying active is great in every way, but there comes a point where too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. This point is called overtraining.

Overtraining is real and it stings hard.

This good study has some good stuff on overtraining. I’ll quote the highlights word by word.

“Depending on the intensity and duration of physical work, hormones with anabolic or catabolic properties, such as testosterone and cortisol, show changes signaling a catabolic state which reverses with rest. This has led to this being considered a potential marker for recognizing overtraining.”

“During and after training. Serum testosterone shows a two-phase behavior in exercise: after short-duration stimulation it increases in relation to intensity, volume, and muscle mass. On the other hand, after extended duration exercise (e.g., three hours) it decreases.”

“Testosterone levels are decreased by endurance training or work during overtraining.”

Corticotrophin (ACTH). Few studies relating this hormone to overtraining are available. Corticotrophin secretion depends on the intensity and duration of exercise and is stimulated by different stresses, particularly blood glucose depletion. There is a hint that in an overtrained state, an increase in ACTH during exercise might be impaired.”

“After many months of low-fat high-carb diets, ice-hockey players showed increased free testosterone, cortisol, and LH.”

How to Not Overtrain

[copied and pasted from my older post]

If you’re overtraining here’s how you can tell.

  • Your dick doesn’t get up most mornings and/or your sex drive decreased.
  • You feel tired, fatigued, out of energy, or unmotivated.
  • You’re not progressing in the gym, breaking personal records, or you’re losing motivation to go to the gym.

That’s the simple ways to tell if you’re overtraining. If they sound accurate, then take a couple days off and take your training down a notch when you get back.

The way you train hard without overtraining and to increase testosterone, increase DHT, increase GH, and all androgens…

  • Your workouts should be 30-60 minutes. Ideally 45 minutes.
  • Train 3-5 days a week. Its different for everyone. A lot of factors come in play, like testosterone, quality of sleep, life stress, how much you’re eating, and more.
  • Keep your in-between sets rest time to 1 minute or less on light exercises and 3-4 minutes on heavy exercises.
  • Don’t train legs more than once a week. Legs are taxing on the nervous system and they don’t have as many androgen receptors as the upper body does. Pull ups activate more androgen receptors than the heaviest squats in the world (found this out in Testshock).
  • Do heavy compound lifts – deadlift, squat, bench press, military press. Do intermediate calisthenics – pull ups, explosive pull ups, pistol squats, jump squats, dips, diamond push ups. Do advanced calisthenics – muscle ups, weighted muscle ups, weighted pull ups/chin ups, weighted pistol squats, weighted jump squats, weighted dips, handstand push ups, clapping push ups, flag poles.
  • Don’t do long endurance training. Stick to sprints, short jogs, walks, or other sports for cardio.
  • Drink a lot of water and eat a lot of carbs to keep your cortisol while training in the normal ranges.
  • Eat some fruits or sugary foods before working out. Blood glucose depletion puts you in an overtrained and catabolic state faster.
  • Take Cortigon before your workout to increase DHT, improve energy and testosterone while keeping cortisol on the lower side.

Aerobic Counts Just as Much as Anaerobic

Physical activity, movement, exercise, workouts, training, physical work – they’re all divided into two different types; aerobic and anaerobic.

Aerobic – any physical activity that makes you sweat, causes you to breathe harder and gets your heart beating faster than at rest. Aerobic exercise uses your large muscle groups, is rhythmic in nature and can be maintained continuously for at least 10 minutes.

Anaerobic – physical exercise intense enough to cause lactate to form. It is used by athletes in non-endurance sports to promote strength, speed and power and by body builders to build muscle mass.

Muscle energy systems trained using anaerobic exercise develop differently compared to aerobic exercise, leading to greater performance in short duration, high intensity activities, which last from mere seconds to up to about 2 minutes.

Example of aerobic – walking, light jogging, agricultural work, basketball, jump ropes.

Example of anaerobic – weight lifting, sprinting, calisthenics, heavy lifting.

Training hard anaerobically, lifting weights and doing calisthenics 3-5 days a week doesn’t cut it. Its great, real damn great. Anaerobic physical activity has a better hormonal response than aerobic, but thing is you can’t do anaerobic workouts much or you’ll overtrain.

So you’re working out 3-5 days a week for 30-60 minutes. Then what are you doing the rest of the time? What you do the rest of the time counts just as much as what you do anaerobically.

This is where aerobic physical activity comes in and if you’re not doing it then you’re only getting half the ups of not being sedentary. Thing with aerobics is you can do it a lot without overtraining. It takes a whole lot to overtrain on aerobics.

There’ll be more on this later in the post.

This controlled clinical trial showed that a 12-month moderate-to-vigorous aerobic exercise intervention was able to increase DHT levels among exercisers versus controls at 3 and 12 months.

DHT and SHBG increased most substantially among exercisers who experienced the greatest change in cardiopulmonary fitness as measured by V ·O2max.

What’s real interesting is the study found no significant effects of this exercise intervention on testosterone, free testosterone, 3α-Diol-G, estradiol, or free estradiol.

This study found – running on a treadmill for 30 minutes, 5 times a week was able to increase DHT levels in skeletal muscle of male rats. Running on a treadmill or anywhere is an aerobic workout.

Calisthenics Program to Increase DHT and All Androgens

  • 4 days a week
  • Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat or Tue/Thu/Sat/Sun
  • Stop at one rep before failure
  • Keep it 30-60 minutes
  • In between sets rest time – 1-1.5 min on light exercises. 2-4 min on heavy exercises (muscle ups, weighted jump squats, …)
  • Go intense and explosive on non-weighted exercises
  • Or = alternative if you can’t do the first exercise (for example – muscle ups or explosive pull ups = muscle ups are the first choice, explosive pull ups are the second choice/alternative)

Monday – Pull day

Muscle ups or explosive pull ups 4 sets of as many as you can do

Weighted chin ups/pull ups 4 sets of as many as you can do

Regular pull ups/parallel pull ups/close grip pull ups 2-3 sets of as many as you can do (depending on how much time you have left)

Wednesday – Push day

Muscle ups or explosive dips 3 sets of as many as you can do

Weighted dips 3-4 sets of as many as you can do

Clapping push ups or explosive push ups 2-3 sets of as many as you can do (depending on how much time you have left)

Friday – Lower body day

Weighted pistol squats or pistol squats 3 sets of as many as you can do

Weighted high box jump squats or high box jump squats 3 sets of as many as you can do

Windshield wipers and/or hanging leg raises (depending on how much time you have left) 3 sets of as many as you can do

Saturday – Pull and push day

Muscle ups or explosive pull ups 4 sets of as many as you can do

Clapping push ups or explosive push ups 4 sets of as many as you can do

Handstand push ups or shoulder push ups 3 sets of as many as you can do

Weight Lifting Mixed with Calisthenics Program to Increase DHT and All Androgens

  • 4 days a week
  • Mon/Wed/Fri/Sat or Tue/Thu/Sat/Sun
  • Stop at one rep before failure
  • Keep it 30-60 minutes
  • In between sets rest time – 1-1.5 min on light exercises. 2-4 min on heavy exercises (muscle ups, deadlifts, bench, …)
  • Go intense and explosive on non-weighted calisthenics exercises
  • Or = alternative if you can’t do the first exercise (for example – muscle ups or explosive pull ups = muscle ups are the first choice, explosive pull ups are the second choice/alternative)
  • You can add some bicep curls, tricep extensions, lateral shoulder raises, or other isolation exercises at the end of your workouts if you have a good amount of time left. Keep these at 2-3 sets.
  • (sets x reps)

Monday – Pull day

Muscle ups or explosive pull ups 3 sets of as many as you can do

Weighted chin ups/pull ups 3 sets of as many as you can do

Deadlifts 3×5-5×5 (depending on how much time you have left)

Wednesday – Push day

Bench press/incline bench press 3×5

Weighted dips 3-4 sets of as many as you can do

Clapping push ups or explosive push ups 2-3 sets of as many as you can do (depending on how much time you have left)

Friday – Lower body day

Weighted pistol squats 3 sets of as many as you can do or barbell squats 4×5

Weighted high box jump squats or high box jump squats 3 sets of as many as you can do

Windshield wipers and/or hanging leg raises (depending on how much time you have left) 3 sets of as many as you can do

Saturday – Pull and push day

Muscle ups or explosive pull ups 4 sets of as many as you can do

Military press 4×5

Clapping push ups or explosive push ups 2-3 sets of as many as you can do (depending on how much time you have left)

Cardio to Increase DHT and All Androgens

Staying active is a damn cliche. Humans weren’t designed to lay down half the day, sit half the day, or not do anything the whole day.

There are a lot of ways to stay active and a lot of cardio forms that will increase DHT and all androgens. No need for that stupid treadmill I see men using in the gym.

  1. Walking
  2. Light short jogs
  3. Jump ropes
  4. Punching bag
  5. HIIT
  6. Short sprints
  7. Sports
  8. Chopping wood
  9. Agricultural work and farming
  10. Manual labor
  11. Swimming in lakes, rivers, and beaches
  12. Tree climbing
  13. Cliff climbing
  14. Hiking
  15. Walkabout

Walking

Walking is as simple as it gets. I’m 100% sure primitive humans walked A LOT on a daily basis. They didn’t just hop in their automobile, effortlessly steer a wheel, and arrive tens of miles away from where they started.

This study had 41 overweight and obese men put on a 12 week lifestyle modification program. The study wanted to see what was better – calorie deficit or increased physical activity. So at the end of the 12 weeks, the increased physical activity group had about 100 ng/dl higher levels of testosterone.

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Light short jogs

Long distance endurance jogs and light short jogs are two different things. Long endurance work lowers testosterone, but short and light jogs don’t. They’re found to increase DHT. I can bet they lower cortisol as well, and you sweat out tons of nasty ass chemicals and toxins.

This study found – running on a treadmill for 30 minutes, 5 times a week was able to increase DHT levels in skeletal muscle of male rats.

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Jump ropes

A low intensity aerobic exercise with little nervous system involvement. The study you saw earlier in this post says that aerobic training does increase DHT.

You don’t need a gym, much space, or any equipment other than a simple jump rope.

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“You gotta do better than that Rocky” – Mick.

Punching bag

Same as jump roping, a punching bag is a great aerobic workout for androgens. I’m also 99% sure primitive humans trained with punching bags too, but the punching bags were other humans.

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HIIT

This study says – 90% V̇O2 peak exercise led to an increase in serum DHEA and free testosterone concentrations in athletes. Serum 5α-dihydrotestosterone concentrations increased with 90% V̇O2 peak exercise in both athletes and non-athletes.

This study says – high-intensity interval exercise might produce a more pronounced turnover of free testosterone by androgen sensitive tissue than the steady state endurance exercise form of exercise.

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Short sprints

You want the most concrete evidence? Look at a sprinter’s body and a marathon runner’s body.

This study done in healthy young men found that DHT is elevated following sprint exercise.

In this study a group of 11 sprint-trained and 12 endurance-trained athletes performed a maximal 30-s sprint on a nonmotorized treadmill. The results were serum growth hormone was greater in sprint-trained athletes than in endurance-trained athletes. Serum growth hormone was still approximately ten times the basal value in sprint-trained athletes after 1 hour of recovery.

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Sports

Shoot a half court, 3 3-pointers in a row, make a goal, score a touchdown, get a home run, knock your opponent out, or win the sprinting race and tell me your testosterone, DHT, androgens, and dopamine isn’t skyrocketed.

Sports don’t only keep you fit and sharp, they increase your androgens in two other ways.

  1. Competition
  2. Winning

In this study testosterone and cortisol were measured in six university tennis players across six matches during their varsity season.

“Testosterone rose just before most matches, and players with the highest prematch testosterone had the most positive improvement in mood before their matches.”

“After matches, mean testosterone rose for winners relative to losers, especially for winners with very positive moods after their victories and who evaluated their own performance highly.”

“Winners with rising testosterone had higher testosterone before their next match, in contrast to losers with falling testosterone, who had lower testosterone before their next match. Cortisol was not related to winning or losing, but it was related to seed (top players having low cortisol), and cortisol generally declined as the season progressed.”

This study suggests that winning can alter testosterone levels in men and that mood may mediate such changes.

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Chopping wood

Good old lumberjacks have their androgens in check.

Studies have it that an hour of chopping wood increases testosterone more than resistance training and more than a professional NFL game. There’s a reason lumberjacks have thick ass beards.

This study says – chopping wood to clear land and feed the family produces more testosterone in men than competitive activities like sport.

The study found that one hour of tree chopping resulted in a 48% increase in salivary testosterone levels in all men, regardless of age or state of health. By contrast levels increased by only 30.1% during a soccer game.

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Agricultural work and farming

Plant a tree or some berry bushes and tell me you don’t get a feeling of accomplishment. Not too long and you’ll be able to eat what you’ve planted. Organic, natural, home-grown, and free of any chemicals.

“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” – Chinese Proverb.

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Manual labor

This study says – in primitive rural areas old men have just as much testosterone as young men.

Well that’s because they’re real active and not sedentary. Most forms of manual labor are aerobic physical activity.

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Swimming in lakes, rivers, and beaches

Swimming is great and a good time, if its in real water. This is for men that live near a lake, river, or swimmable ocean. Most men won’t have somewhere to swim weekly. So if you have somewhere to swim, swimming in real water is good stuff.

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Tree climbing

Another primitive thing to do. I remember when I was a kid, climbing every tree I see and competing with other boys, seeing who can get higher. All fun and games until you grab on to a weak small branch and it breaks. So don’t trust the small branches.

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Cliff climbing

Cliff climbing is tree climbing for grown ups. It can get real dangerous so you’re taking a risk every time you go cliff climbing, which is good.

This study says testosterone increases risk-taking, financially and physically. It works vice versa, taking a risk and succeeding increases testosterone as well. That’s why men do stupid risky things in the presence of a beautiful girl, to try and impress her.

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Hiking

The study mentioned earlier in this post says that walking is great for testosterone, DHT, DHEA, and overall androgens. The more walking, the better.

Then when hiking, you’re in a forest, which is even better.

This study found that 2 hours of walking in a forest was able to significantly increased serum adiponectin and dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEA-S) levels. Habitual walking in forest environments may lower blood pressure by reducing sympathetic nerve activity and have beneficial effects on blood adiponectin and DHEA-S levels, and habitual walking exercise may have beneficial effects on blood NT-proBNP levels.

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Walkabout

Walkabout historically refers to a rite of passage during which Indigenous male Australians would undergo a journey during adolescence, typically ages 10 to 16, and live in the wilderness for a period as long as six months to make the spiritual and traditional transition into manhood. Walkabout has come to be referred to as “temporal mobility” because its original name has been used as a derogatory term in Australian culture, demeaning its spiritual significance. (Wikipedia)

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Cardio That Fucks up Androgens

Not all cardio works the same. Some forms of cardio will decrease DHT and all androgens, some will increase DHT and all androgens…

  1. Light weight high rep pumping
  2. Long endurance training
  3. Biking
  4. Swimming in pools

Light weight high rep pumping

I see guys at the gym that look the same as they did the past year pumping out light weights for high reps. Arnold Schwarzenegger fanboys.. Well that only works if you’re on steroids. Arnold probably forgot to mention that.

To get a big hormonal response you need to hit as many muscles as you can, in as little time as possible, with as much intensity as possible. That’s the Testshock training formula.

Long endurance training

Look at a sprinter’s body and a marathon runner’s body. That’s all the scientific evidence you need to see. Its better than scientific evidence, its called logic and common sense.

In this study men increased weekly running mileage to an average of 56 km/week. What happened? Total testosterone and free androgen index levels decreased significantly.

Biking

There’s some evidence that biking and cycling messes with androgens.

This study has some stuff to say. I’ll quote the highlights word by word.

“A study by researchers at the UCLA School of Nursing has found that serious male cyclists may experience hormonal imbalances that could affect their reproductive health.”

“The UCLA study explored associations between exercise intensity and circulating levels of reproductive hormones in both serious leisure athletes and recreational athletes. The researchers divided 107 healthy male study subjects (ages 18 to 60) into three groups: 16 triathletes, 46 cyclists and 45 recreational athletes.”

“Plasma estradiol and testosterone levels were significantly elevated in serious leisure male cyclists.”

“Plasma estradiol concentrations were more than two times higher in the cyclists than in the triathletes and recreational athletes, and total testosterone levels were about 50 percent higher in cyclists than in the recreational athletes.”

So a 200%+ increase in estrogen and a 50% increase in testosterone. Not sounding good so far.

The study says that cyclists use chamois cream. They rub it on their crotch. The ingredients in the cream probably have xenoestrogens or estrogen mimics, which cause the increase in estrogen.

“In the study, 48.5 percent of cyclists — compared with 10 percent of triathletes — reported using a paraben-containing chamois cream.”

Paraben is a nasty ass chemical used in cosmetic products and a lot of packaged food. Fucking man-made chemicals fucking up hormones once again.

The study couldn’t conclude if it was the cream that increased estrogen by 200% or the cream and the position of cycling, which puts your balls in a position that they can’t produce testosterone.

I’d just stay away from cycling and definitely all cosmetic products. What you do is up to you though.

Swimming in pools

To those that have been swimming in pools for a long time, I have some bad news to break to you all.

Swimming is real great and a good time, but not in pools. You see pools are filled with chlorine and other chemicals, which ain’t exactly a match made in heaven when it comes to androgens.

This study says – swimming in indoor chlorinated pools during childhood is strongly associated with lower levels of serum inhibin B and total testosterone. The absorption of reprotoxic chlorination by-products across the highly permeable scrotum might explain these associations.

This next study consisted of 199 primarily white boys aged 14-18 years who swam regularly in indoor and/or outdoor chlorinated pools, and 162 similar boys who swam most frequently in an indoor pool disinfected with copper–silver ionization (but also swam at times in indoor or outdoor chlorinated pools).

The authors compared serum levels of several testicular hormone biomarkers between the two groups: inhibin B, total and free testosterone, sex hormone–binding globulin, luteinizing hormone, follicle-stimulating hormone, and dehydroepiandrosterone sulphate.

“The boys who swam the most in indoor chlorinated pools had concentrations of inhibin B and total testosterone about 20% lower than those of boys who swam in the pool disinfected with copper–silver ionization, and the former were about 3 times more likely than the latter to have abnormally low concentrations of these hormones.”

“Adverse effects were associated with swimming as little as 30 minutes every 2 weeks.”

Save swimming for the lakes, rivers, and beaches instead of a pool of chemicals.

You starting to see a connection here – man-made chemicals = fucks up your androgens. They’re all trying to steal your androgens, don’t be vulnerable.

Diet and Nutrition Plan to Increase DHT and All Androgens

There’s way more food out there that inhibits 5 alpha reductase than there is food that increases 5 alpha reductase, therefore it will increase DHT.

Here’s a solid diet plan created to convert as much testosterone to DHT via 5 alpha reductase and 5a-androstanedione, lower estrogen, and keep cortisol low. This is a general plan geared for DHT, a custom plan will ensure you’re fully geared for DHT production in your specific scenario. This general plan will do for healthy normal men.

Change the total calories to suit your goals and your body. And change the timing if you want (breakfast and lunch together for example).

This diet uses intermittent fasting to improve insulin sensitivity. Insulin sensitivity = higher 5 alpha reductase activity and expression.

Increase DHT and All Androgens DHT diet

1st meal – 2 slices of sorghum bread with 5 eggs fried in 5 tablespoons of butter, some onion, and ~5 dried prunes.

2nd meal – 10 chicken livers, 5 medium potatoes/3-4 big ones, a cup of cabbage, a pomegranate or two, and a cup of spinach.

Replacements you can make a few times a week…

Eggs – beef, red meat, bacon

Butter – no replacements, butter is the foundation of a DHT based diet

Onions – garlic, leafy greens, cruciferous vegetables

Sorghum – other sorghum products (sorghum popcorn, sorghum grain, sorghum syrup …)

Prunes – raisins, bananas, berries, grapes

Chicken liver – other animal organs, red meat, beef, bacon

Potatoes – white rice, buckwheat

Cabbage – garlic, leafy greens, spinach, cruciferous vegetables

Spinach – onions, leafy greens, cruciferous vegetables

Pomegranate – grapes, bananas, prunes, berries

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Credit due..

  1. http://suppversity.blogspot.com/
  2. Physical Activity and Testosterone – Anabolicmen.com

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Comments

  1. Hamdan

    I thought ginko biloba extract found in cortigon block dht, not enhancing it. What about ashwangndha and rhiodiola ?

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